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		<title>By: Ron Amundson</title>
		<link>http://www.dcrblogs.com/2009/01/10/congress-wants-you-to-spend-less-time-with-your-kids/#comment-27566</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Amundson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a windfall for the offshore manufacturers who made the mess to start with... they obviously had some good lobbyists, as effectively they have cornered the market. Also, its likely they are already working on ways to pass the tests, all the while continuing to use lead and phalates, ie a repeat of the melamine deal all over again. Ie, great test results, as they game the test procedure, albeit the product itself is not safe. Or worse, some of the alternative chemistries may well be much more hazardous than the known existing ones.

Sure, no parent wants to give children hazardous toys, and likely thats why there is so little outrage over this... but its also very likely the shady practice of big business using the legislative tools available to put away competition.

Nothing I am involved with is children related, but this parallels the past in so many other arenas where lobbyists had a field day at the expense of the masses. Its a sad deal all around, and worse, if they end up being successful gaming the tests, or we find out in 10 years the alternative chemistries are 100X more hazardous than what they legislatively replace. There are always unintended consequences....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a windfall for the offshore manufacturers who made the mess to start with&#8230; they obviously had some good lobbyists, as effectively they have cornered the market. Also, its likely they are already working on ways to pass the tests, all the while continuing to use lead and phalates, ie a repeat of the melamine deal all over again. Ie, great test results, as they game the test procedure, albeit the product itself is not safe. Or worse, some of the alternative chemistries may well be much more hazardous than the known existing ones.</p>
<p>Sure, no parent wants to give children hazardous toys, and likely thats why there is so little outrage over this&#8230; but its also very likely the shady practice of big business using the legislative tools available to put away competition.</p>
<p>Nothing I am involved with is children related, but this parallels the past in so many other arenas where lobbyists had a field day at the expense of the masses. Its a sad deal all around, and worse, if they end up being successful gaming the tests, or we find out in 10 years the alternative chemistries are 100X more hazardous than what they legislatively replace. There are always unintended consequences&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric "Speedcat Hollydale"</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric "Speedcat Hollydale"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't remember the site with the vote numbers, but that's what they had published. My web history reads like a list of 1000 mysteries. Tooo many to make sense of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t remember the site with the vote numbers, but that&#8217;s what they had published. My web history reads like a list of 1000 mysteries. Tooo many to make sense of.</p>
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		<title>By: Conserva-Kat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Interesting take on the CPSIA situation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conserva-Kat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Interesting take on the CPSIA situation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this at Believe. Act. Achieve - dcr Blogs dot Com » Blog Archive » Congress Wants You to Spend Less Time w.... So, essentially, it will be okay to let your kid listen to a portable MP3 player. It’ll be okay [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this at Believe. Act. Achieve - dcr Blogs dot Com » Blog Archive » Congress Wants You to Spend Less Time w&#8230;. So, essentially, it will be okay to let your kid listen to a portable MP3 player. It’ll be okay [...]</p>
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		<title>By: salon equipment wholesale</title>
		<link>http://www.dcrblogs.com/2009/01/10/congress-wants-you-to-spend-less-time-with-your-kids/#comment-27531</link>
		<dc:creator>salon equipment wholesale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Doug, I agree with you about children. They are really like property.
Till</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Doug, I agree with you about children. They are really like property.<br />
Till</p>
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		<title>By: dcr</title>
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		<dc:creator>dcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been tweeting with stamp makers and crafters on Twitter, and I think we may have started getting the attention of some of the larger stamp makers and suppliers and are making them aware of the CPSIA.  So, hopefully we'll hear from them their thoughts on the issue.

&lt;i&gt;"If they just applied this to imports which I think SHOULD be stringent, would it still affect you as much?"&lt;/i&gt;

I don't know for sure.  The self-inking stamp mounts are all imported.  The last brand that I know of that was being manufactured in the U.S. was moved outside the country a couple years ago.  And, those are not products primarily intended for use by children, so they would not be subject to testing.

But, parents have ordered them for their children. I know of one customer who ordered a self-inking stamp for their disabled child.  He couldn't sign his name well, but he could rubber stamp and he enjoyed it.

So, if some kids use it, does that mean it would have to be tested?  I don't know.  But, if it did have to be tested, I would probably be the one to be responsible for testing, because the manufacturer would not be required to test it because it is not intended primarily for children.

So, that would be a gray area.  But, I would think that, in such a case, a disclaimer might be acceptable (i.e., not designed for use by children under the age of 13) because it's really not a product designed primarily for or intended primarily for children.  But, again, I don't know for sure.  And, as the current legislation is written, it's up to a bureaucrat to decide whether it's a product for kids and a disclaimer won't affect that, apparently.

There are "child-safe" ink pads and inks that I carry.  But I am a reseller, not a manufacturer on those.  So, as I understand it, I would not be responsible for testing it if the manufacturer provides documentation.

The bigger concern is art stamps.  The way the legislation is written, it appears to be up to bureaucrats to decide whether something is intended for children or not.  So, even if I had a label saying that the stamps were for kids aged 13 or older, if some bureaucrat decides it appeals to younger children, then it's considered designed for younger children and must be tested.

But, in this case, the art stamps are made in the U.S. and I believe all the parts are made in the U.S.  So, if the CPSIA was limited to imports, then I would probably be okay on those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been tweeting with stamp makers and crafters on Twitter, and I think we may have started getting the attention of some of the larger stamp makers and suppliers and are making them aware of the CPSIA.  So, hopefully we&#8217;ll hear from them their thoughts on the issue.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;If they just applied this to imports which I think SHOULD be stringent, would it still affect you as much?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know for sure.  The self-inking stamp mounts are all imported.  The last brand that I know of that was being manufactured in the U.S. was moved outside the country a couple years ago.  And, those are not products primarily intended for use by children, so they would not be subject to testing.</p>
<p>But, parents have ordered them for their children. I know of one customer who ordered a self-inking stamp for their disabled child.  He couldn&#8217;t sign his name well, but he could rubber stamp and he enjoyed it.</p>
<p>So, if some kids use it, does that mean it would have to be tested?  I don&#8217;t know.  But, if it did have to be tested, I would probably be the one to be responsible for testing, because the manufacturer would not be required to test it because it is not intended primarily for children.</p>
<p>So, that would be a gray area.  But, I would think that, in such a case, a disclaimer might be acceptable (i.e., not designed for use by children under the age of 13) because it&#8217;s really not a product designed primarily for or intended primarily for children.  But, again, I don&#8217;t know for sure.  And, as the current legislation is written, it&#8217;s up to a bureaucrat to decide whether it&#8217;s a product for kids and a disclaimer won&#8217;t affect that, apparently.</p>
<p>There are &#8220;child-safe&#8221; ink pads and inks that I carry.  But I am a reseller, not a manufacturer on those.  So, as I understand it, I would not be responsible for testing it if the manufacturer provides documentation.</p>
<p>The bigger concern is art stamps.  The way the legislation is written, it appears to be up to bureaucrats to decide whether something is intended for children or not.  So, even if I had a label saying that the stamps were for kids aged 13 or older, if some bureaucrat decides it appeals to younger children, then it&#8217;s considered designed for younger children and must be tested.</p>
<p>But, in this case, the art stamps are made in the U.S. and I believe all the parts are made in the U.S.  So, if the CPSIA was limited to imports, then I would probably be okay on those.</p>
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		<title>By: dcr</title>
		<link>http://www.dcrblogs.com/2009/01/10/congress-wants-you-to-spend-less-time-with-your-kids/#comment-27529</link>
		<dc:creator>dcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know how humanity has progressed to this point without politicians to protect us. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how humanity has progressed to this point without politicians to protect us. <img src='http://www.dcrblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: teeni</title>
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		<dc:creator>teeni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't realize how many things were affected.  No wonder you are angry.  I wouldn't have even thought of rubber stamps but yes, kids use those a lot in art classes and just for fun as youngsters.  Wow.  

If they just applied this to imports which I think SHOULD be stringent, would it still affect you as much?  I would think then more value would be placed on things made in the U.S.  I wouldn't mind that too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t realize how many things were affected.  No wonder you are angry.  I wouldn&#8217;t have even thought of rubber stamps but yes, kids use those a lot in art classes and just for fun as youngsters.  Wow.  </p>
<p>If they just applied this to imports which I think SHOULD be stringent, would it still affect you as much?  I would think then more value would be placed on things made in the U.S.  I wouldn&#8217;t mind that too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Olga, the Traveling Bra</title>
		<link>http://www.dcrblogs.com/2009/01/10/congress-wants-you-to-spend-less-time-with-your-kids/#comment-27526</link>
		<dc:creator>Olga, the Traveling Bra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a DANG miracle anyone has lived past the age of 10!  Geez....that's stoooooooooooopid!

Hey...got a little &lt;a href="http://olgathetravelingbradearolga.blogspot.com/2009/01/my-cups-runneth-over-again.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;sumthin for ya!&lt;/a&gt;  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a DANG miracle anyone has lived past the age of 10!  Geez&#8230;.that&#8217;s stoooooooooooopid!</p>
<p>Hey&#8230;got a little <a href="http://olgathetravelingbradearolga.blogspot.com/2009/01/my-cups-runneth-over-again.html" rel="nofollow">sumthin for ya!</a>  <img src='http://www.dcrblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: dcr</title>
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		<dc:creator>dcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note too that the fine for non-compliance is $100,000, which is enough to cost a small business their business or a home business their home, but a drop in the bucket for a multi-million dollar corporation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note too that the fine for non-compliance is $100,000, which is enough to cost a small business their business or a home business their home, but a drop in the bucket for a multi-million dollar corporation.</p>
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		<title>By: dcr</title>
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		<dc:creator>dcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They still frown on buying and selling kids though.  So, at least we haven't gone too far awry.

But, yeah, child custody can be really messed up sometimes.  And so can child services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They still frown on buying and selling kids though.  So, at least we haven&#8217;t gone too far awry.</p>
<p>But, yeah, child custody can be really messed up sometimes.  And so can child services.</p>
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